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Ken I know you are a way better ,younger , tougher rider than me, with that said I have a bucket list / urge to ride to ride up or down from ocotillo via the railroad tracks to Jacumba. I know its wrong but I'm going to do it before they modify/ redo the tracks as planned. Are you up for it ? Also I have found the way into Moon Valley, it is rocky and a bitch but I want to tie it thru to ocotillo (might be a deadend or illegal), I think there is two ways out. You have already done stagecoach yes? Are you thinking about devils canyon? I hear its a real bitch.