Baja Scenic road from TJ to Ensenada in jeopardy of collapsing...again

[Dan Diego 40]

Translation: The scenic TJ -- Ensenada toll road near Salsipuedes is at risk of collapsing due to the placement right over the San Andreas fault...and the El Niño rains ain't gonna help none.

Not that any of you dirt riders actually patronize the toll road...

The last time this occurred was in December 2013...and it was a whopper.

http://jornadabc.mx/tijuana/21-12-2015/escenica-en-alto-riesgo-de-colapsar

Escénica, en alto riesgo de colapsar: Especialistas advierten que la carretera escénica está en riesgo de un colapso similar o de mayor magnitud al que ocurrió el 28 de diciembre de 2013, debido a las condiciones geológicas y mala planeación; Capufe descarta afectaciones mayores por lluvias de El Niño.

[EddieEarl 6]

Holy Earthquakes, Batman!

[Danmule 2]

Thats one hell of a razorback to go off

[beniflas 6]

Just stay on the throttle and keep the front end up...braaap!

[rojodogg 0]

I know a bunch of short cuts all dirt, way better than the toll road.

[Dan Diego 40]

I know a bunch of short cuts all dirt, way better than the toll road.

See, THAT is a great attitude. And exactly why I like the motley crew that is SDAR!

[PastaPilot 17]

Translation: The scenic TJ -- Ensenada toll road near Salsipuedes is at risk of collapsing due to the placement right over the San Andreas fault..

It is going to collapse again but the road isn't anywhere near the San Andreas fault.

[kato 53]

It is going to collapse again but the road isn't anywhere near the San Andreas fault.

Maybe more due to the "mala planeación" and I quote

[Vacman 0]

It is going to collapse again but the road isn't anywhere near the San Andreas fault.

Maybe more due to the "mala planeación" and I quote

Poor planning is correct. The article basically says that a dude from a university warned them that it (landslides due to rains) would happen again and they didn't listen. They also found another sinkhole (?) or fracture right near a school in Ensenada and they didn't do anything about that, either. At least that's what I'm reading, but my Spanish still leaves a lot to be desired.

[jawhitmoyer 0]

This is just more climate change BS. Bad if it rains, bad if it doesn't rain.

Frankly, I hope it does collapse as I prefer the curvy free road, but my wife makes me take the toll road.

@rojodogg, tell us more about getting to Ensenada via dirt, please. I always see trails on the east side of the toll road, but it's hard to tell if they go anywhere at 100 mph. ;-)

[Dan Diego 40]

Translation: The scenic TJ -- Ensenada toll road near Salsipuedes is at risk of collapsing due to the placement right over the San Andreas fault..

It is going to collapse again but the road isn't anywhere near the San Andreas fault.

I've been wrong before and I predict I'll be wrong again. Sorry for that: I hope it didn't ruin anyone's Christmas celebrations!

[Dan Diego 40]

Perhaps this is more accurate: The scenic toll road crosses the Laguna Salada Fault, which is about 60 kilometers (37 mi) to 80 km (50 mi) long and straddles the CaliforniaBaja California border.

Mexicali, El Centro, San Diego, Ensenada, and Tijuana are situated in a very active seismic zone and surrounded by important faults. Evidence of this may be seen in the torn up toll road in that area, constant state of construction and repair and the ubiquitous "zona de fallas" signs.

Sometimes a little late...

[paulmbowers 236]

And this is all San Andreas' fault?

[Dan Diego 40]

And this is all San Andreas' fault?

Sure. I mean, it couldn't be the Mexican construction, right?

Let's just blame "global warming" and be done with it.

[paulmbowers 236]

And this is all San Andreas' fault?

Sure. I mean, it couldn't be the Mexican construction, right?

Let's just blame "global warming" and be done with it.

Well...as Saint Andreas is an agent of some diety, I'd have to blame, well...God.

[Dan Diego 40]

And this is all San Andreas' fault?

Sure. I mean, it couldn't be the Mexican construction, right?

Let's just blame "global warming" and be done with it.

Well...as Saint Andreas is an agent of some diety, I'd have to blame, well...God.

Mexicans have been known to blame and thank God...usually in the same breath.

But their construction processes since Teotihuacan and Chichen Itza have been known to be...sketchy.

[rojodogg 0]

Well in Mexico you have some of the smartest engineers and arquitecs but the major problems is they design it correctly but the government does not want to pay for all of it so they drop items from the plans, then you have the contractors and workers who all think it is there natural right to steal materials, so you end up with cement that does not have the correct amount of concrete, rock and or re-bar. They design it correctly but by the time it is built it is a accident waiting to happen.

[Dress4Less 162]

And this is all San Andreas' fault?

Paul, Paul, Paul...

[jawhitmoyer 0]

@Dan Diego, and yet they still stand.

Forget the building of the roads. They need to figure out maintenance. Too many potholes. I hit one in El Sauzal and blew out two tires. Thank goodness for run flats...I drove all the way to Tijuana (at 40 mph) before I found a llantera that had my size. $50 later I had two nearly bald tires to get back to Rancho Bernardo.

[Dan Diego 40]

That one section is in a constant state state of maintenance. And it's constantly shifting.

#theStruggleisreal