Federal job opening

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http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/200...bs124011/?metro

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Was that today?

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Was that today?

Yuppers

UNION-TRIBUNE

12:40 p.m. April 8, 2009

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I had a roommate and other friends who work for the border patrol. Most border patrol jobs are easy and high paid (many make $65k-$85k after a few years). Just show up. You have a much higher chance of getting injured riding dirt bikes than working for the border patrol. They also have pensions, which most private sector jobs no longer have.

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I had a roommate and other friends who work for the border patrol. Most are easy and high paid jobs (many make $70-$90k a year). Just show up. You have a much higher chance of getting injured riding dirt bikes than working for the border patrol. They also have pensions, which most private sector jobs no longer have.

A difference between riding a dirt bike, and being a border patrol officer is: on a dirt bike you can mitigate the risk yourself, and on the job, you don't have options...

pensions: yup... just found out my pension fund will not be contributed to after 2012... along with other assorted changes to "align our company with global practices"... crap

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Was that today?

Yuppers

UNION-TRIBUNE

12:40 p.m. April 8, 2009

The add says saturday

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The article talks about support/admin positions too. Not just agents. With agents comes support structure. Prolly lower pay but a constant check with benefits and job security.

[RogerTOWM 0]

I had a roommate and other friends who work for the border patrol. Most border patrol jobs are easy and high paid (many make $65k-$85k after a few years). Just show up. You have a much higher chance of getting injured riding dirt bikes than working for the border patrol. They also have pensions, which most private sector jobs no longer have.

I had a friend die as a border patrol officer, so I guess I'll disagree about it being safe.

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KLRoger, what happened to your friend?

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KLRoger, what happened to your friend?

He was chasing a group of illegal aliens when he went off of a cliff over by the dam at Otay. How he went off was never clear to me. Yes it was night but he knew the area. Nobody else went off the cliff, maybe he was helped off?

I don’t feel it is worth your life trying to catch people who are just going to be escorted back across the border and then be back on this side before you get your paperwork completed.

The public doesn’t really know how much crime is committed by people illegally in this country. Auto theft, burglaries, shops lifting, robberies, rape, drug dealing and murder.

Yes most of the people coming across just want jobs but many do not. They need to follow the law and wait their turn. Anything else encourages lawlessness and creates the same type of society they are trying to leave.

Many of the illegals coming across in the last couple of decades are not immigrants. They consider themselves migrants not immigrants. An immigrant wants to become part of this country, a citizen; his allegiance is with his new homeland. A migrant just wants to get something from here and return home. His heart is with his home country. Even if he gains citizenship here his allegiance will always be elsewhere. As a nation we do not need that.

I appreciate what the agents have to go through. They have a thankless job.

The new emphasis of moving assets to the border is all political. Why are we going to start looking at what people are bringing into Mexico? Isn’t that a Mexican Agent’s job? We need to concern ourselves with what is going north not south! This just reminds me of the old smoke and mirror act.

Ok that's my rant for the night.

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yeah, it is not worth risking too much because there is no much punishment - we just deport them, which means they just try again - i agree this is a political move (smoke and mirrors) that is all about jobs - creating gov't jobs now is kind of socialistic, but the real problem is that these agents aren't cheap - it costs the taxpayer a lot - add their hazard pay, 6 month probation bonus, COLA, night shift differential, benefits, pension, overtime, etc. and the lower base pay on web sites is misleading - when it is all said and done, some of these law enforcement officers and firefighters make six figures (or very close to that), which is just too much IMO, especially when they could not earn half that in the private sector - in effect, these jobs are why the private sector is taxed 30%-40% - i would rather see these folks fix a road - there are already enough people guarding the border and illegals still get back and forth - adding more agents won't change that

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I don't want to be an agent out in the field. I'm too old for that anyway. I want to work in an office doing administrative work.

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Was that today?

Yuppers

UNION-TRIBUNE

12:40 p.m. April 8, 2009

The add says saturday

Ur right, the event is Saturday. I thought Mimi was asking if the article was today. I guess "was that today" .....well.

Bottom line is. There's a job fair. Ya wanna job, that's a good place to start. You don't agree people who work all hours of the day/night protecting your freedom (not all are migrants...remember the BP agent run down by drug smugglers???) should get paid, don't go apply for a job with them. Maybe the money and retirement is to offset the limited years law enforcement folks live after retirement......something to do with the stress, odd hours, high divorce & alcoholism rate (due to stress).

Remember, the government doesn't just "waste" money on making sure you're safe at night, it also throws billions at private industry bailing out those who screwed every thing up. Mostly done by attorneys driving electric cars so they can feel good about towing their fossil fuel burning foliage destroying toy to areas where nature used to abound. Ron Paul is turning over in his bed just thinkin' about it....only to be face to face with Pelosi.

Now the hijack is complete. Oh, and u burned the popcorn, Fakey. :clapping:

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Ooh.... politics! Pass the popcorn Paul!

or should we move this to members only?

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I looked into the BP agent position a few years back. I think Customs and BP and some other agency had just become one agency at that time. I am sure they have lots of opportunities but I did not want to go to the South for the FBI training and academy. I hate the stupid BP checkpoint at San Clemente and if I was a BP standing in the freeway I would hate it more. Why dont they ever man the checkpoint when it rains? Anyway it could be fun at times but it seems like a thankless job.

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Ooh.... politics! Pass the popcorn Paul!

Get your own!

[dirt dame 561]

I looked into the BP agent position a few years back.

Anyway it could be fun at times but it seems like a thankless job.

I don't know. Seems like it wouldn't be that bad. I could tell you about what a thankless job is..... :clapping:

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Ooh.... politics! Pass the popcorn Paul!

Get your own!

typical republican

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Maybe the money and retirement is to offset the limited years law enforcement folks live after retirement......something to do with the stress, odd hours, high divorce & alcoholism rate (due to stress). :clapping:

Lawyers have all those too.

Stress? That is the same argument my old roommate (a federal agent) makes. If you want stress, come over to the private sector and fear being handed a pink slip or not having enough business to pay your bills or having no pension or filing for bankruptcy. I have seen the stress in many gov't jobs and most of it is created out of thin air - just like Al Quaeda. Find me a group of more than 250 coordinated terrorists. What is Al Quaeda's web site? Small terrorist groups that are in no way related or coordinated does not constitute "Al Quaeda." It is a made up word to create fear in Americans. As Roosevelt said, "There is nothing to fear but fear itself." One successful terrorist attack should not justify fear mongering, wars, and inflated gov't salaries years later. And yes, the gov't injects money into the private sector, but isn't American built on capitalism where a free market dictates sales of goods and services? Didn't we fight a cold war against socialism and communism? And now we are becoming what we fought for decades?

Remember, I worked in a police department on the north side of St. Louis so I know the upsides and downsides of working in law enforcement. But back then cops made $30k - now it is over double that. In my hometown this year, the newspaper published salaries of prison guards making $109k and a sergeant making $143k when the top elected DA with 20 years experience only made $135k. Real stress is graduating with an advanced degree with $150k in debt and no job.

This is a good public discussion in my opinion and a good job with the Border Patrol whether it is as an agent or in support/admin. And BTW, there are three Pauls on this thread, so who is passing the popcorn?

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I hate the stupid BP checkpoint at San Clemente ... Why dont they ever man the checkpoint when it rains?

To avoid multiple rear-end collisions.

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Here is where I got my new Job; I retired from the Navy as an E-7 but hold an equivilent grade to a LT. (O-3) now and in a year or so I'll be at the LCDR (O-4) level. I had to get out to get promoted :clapping:

Seriously if any of you are looking for a job there are allot of job openings for qualified people in a very wide range of career areas here in the states and overseas with the Department of the Navy.

The secret to getting your resume looked at is matching the open job description with your own application using as many of the "Key" words in the job description itself .

Here is the link:https://chart.donhr.navy.mil/

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I can't get the link. :clapping:

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The secret to getting your resume looked at is matching the open job description with your own application using as many of the "Key" words in the job description itself .

Good point :clapping:. A point that applies across the board anymore. The days of the single page resume are dead. Resumes are now loaded into applicant tracking systems or other similar databases. Hiring managers and/or recruiters will search the databases based on the criteria for the position. Tailor your résumé to the description, or for a general résumé upload to a job board get in as many keywords and phrases as you can while keeping the grammar logical. You'd be surprised how many ineffective resumes are floating around out there. Probably half of them...