Stop Lights

[Honda90 0]

My bike and I are too small to trip the trigger. Is there some secret way to make the light change?

[paulmbowers 236]

My bike and I are too small to trip the trigger. Is there some secret way to make the light change?

I ride through.

[bikeslut 1]

Look for the "seam"...most have one; the trip wires run under those

Try putting the side stand down

You can beat it in court if you have to...I've done it

Wait for a cycle-worth, then proceed when safe

[paulmbowers 236]

Look for the "seam"...most have one; the trip wires run under those

Try putting the side stand down

You can beat it in court if you have to...I've done it

Wait for a cycle-worth, then proceed when safe

Ermmm.

If you look at the seam, you'll see it forms a loop, usually square because they use a target saw to make it (when retrofitting) and those saws don't make good circles. It's the loop that is the sensor area, not just the wire. Ride over and stop in the center of the loop.

Then wait a cycle or two and ride through.

[Sneeker 29]

This is an 250cc issue all the time, not enough metal.

Ride over and push the crosswalk button. Not ideal in heavy traffic or left turns but can be done if you're daring.

[bikeslut 1]

Look for the "seam"...most have one; the trip wires run under those

Try putting the side stand down

You can beat it in court if you have to...I've done it

Wait for a cycle-worth, then proceed when safe

Ermmm.

If you look at the seam, you'll see it forms a loop, usually square because they use a target saw to make it (when retrofitting) and those saws don't make good circles. It's the loop that is the sensor area, not just the wire. Ride over and stop in the center of the loop.

Then wait a cycle or two and ride through.

I've had more success with the kickstand right ON the seam

The DRZ is high and fairly light.I've learned some tricks

The klr triggers signals in the next lane

[paulmbowers 236]

I've had more success with the kickstand right ON the seam

The DRZ is high and fairly light.I've learned some tricks

The klr triggers signals in the next lane

I got five dolla that says your results are anecdotal.

[bikeslut 1]

You're on...wait...which way are you betting

I said "I've had more success" therefore agreeing they are anec...whatever you said

[Bagstr 287]

Carry one of these in your tank bag with a short cord.

Or just the flat cover

[hobiee 28]

The plate in my head does the trick for me :wacko: :blink:

[Honda90 0]

Thanks guys! So it's magnetic?

[tsr 0]

A LEO I spoke with about this said there is no set number of cycles needed to be waited through. He also said that running the light is not legal, but added that if the light is "malfunctioning," what is one to do? I had to deal with a "malfunctioning" light just a few hours ago on my V-Strom !!!

[paulmbowers 236]

Thanks guys! So it's magnetic?

Yeah- big coil that senses steel. Ok, technically, it's inductance.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-driving-safety/safety-regulatory-devices/question234.htm

[TrophyHunter 15]

"If you ride a two-wheeled vehicle, you can attach the magnet to your shoe with epoxy paste so that when you pull up to an intersection, you're able to spot the wire and put your shoe right over it with the magnet."

Trigger

Bike magnet

[KE6UPI 0]

OK California Law. I looked it up, but good luck. I'm going to write this down and check with CHP.

So the light is malfunctioning if you bike doesn't detect you. (21450.0()

Running a red light is OK if the light is malfunctioning. (21800.0(d.2))

21450.5. (a) A traffic-actuated signal is an official traffic

control signal, as specified in Section 445, that displays one or

more of its indications in response to the presence of traffic

detected by mechanical, visual, electrical, or other means.

( Upon the first placement of a traffic-actuated signal or

replacement of the loop detector of a traffic-actuated signal, the

traffic-actuated signal shall, to the extent feasible and in

conformance with professional traffic engineering practice, be

installed and maintained so as to detect lawful bicycle or motorcycle

traffic on the roadway.

© Cities, counties, and cities and counties shall not be

required to comply with the provisions contained in subdivision (B)/>

until the Department of Transportation, in consultation with these

entities, has established uniform standards, specifications, and

guidelines for the detection of bicycles and motorcycles by

traffic-actuated signals and related signal timing.

(d) This section shall remain in effect only until January 1,

2018, and as of that date is repealed, unless a later enacted

statute, that is enacted before January 1, 2018, deletes or extends

that date.

21800. (a) The driver of a vehicle approaching an intersection

shall yield the right-of-way to any vehicle which has entered the

intersection from a different highway.

( (1) When two vehicles enter an intersection from different

highways at the same time, the driver of the vehicle on the left

shall yield the right-of-way to the vehicle on his or her immediate

right, except that the driver of any vehicle on a terminating highway

shall yield the right-of-way to any vehicle on the intersecting

continuing highway.

(2) For the purposes of this section, "terminating highway" means

a highway which intersects, but does not continue beyond the

intersection, with another highway which does continue beyond the

intersection.

© When two vehicles enter an intersection from different

highways at the same time and the intersection is controlled from all

directions by stop signs, the driver of the vehicle on the left

shall yield the right-of-way to the vehicle on his or her immediate

right.

(d) (1) The driver of any vehicle approaching an intersection

which has official traffic control signals that are inoperative shall

stop at the intersection, and may proceed with caution when it is

safe to do so.

(2) When two vehicles enter an intersection from different

highways at the same time, and the official traffic control signals

for the intersection are inoperative, the driver of the vehicle on

the left shall yield the right-of-way to the vehicle on his or her

immediate right, except that the driver of any vehicle on a

terminating highway shall yield the right-of-way to any vehicle on

the intersecting continuing highway.

(e) This section does not apply to any of the following:

(1) Any intersection controlled by an official traffic control

signal or yield right-of-way sign.

(2) Any intersection controlled by stop signs from less than all

directions.

(3) When vehicles are approaching each other from opposite

directions and the driver of one of the vehicles intends to make, or

is making, a left turn.

[carguy 1]

Most agencies are changing to proximity sensors because of so many issues with the magnetic loops. Each agency is required to ensure the loop pick up motor vehicles. Some locations also have loops for bicycles too. If the location that is not working for you is a usual location you use you should consider contacting the public works department and requesting them to repair the loop to detect motorcycles. I had a training session with CHP and they recommend that you make a right turn and look for a safe place to u-turn not run it. They will write you up for running a red. Or you can try all the goofy ideas with scrap metal to trigger the loop assuming it is working at all. Another new rage for the midnight recycle-rs is to steel the copper in traffic loops and street lights, it is worth $$$$$$$. They have found a few BBQed to the poles. :torch:/>

[Honda90 0]

Good to know. I had wondered why no one talks about this.

The light by my house is a no right turn on red. So I'm still stuck. Today I ran it. I am paranoid to sit and wonder if someone might come from behind and run me over. I am generally paranoid on the road. Always relieved to make it back to the yard.

[Honda90 0]

"If you ride a two-wheeled vehicle, you can attach the magnet to your shoe with epoxy paste so that when you pull up to an intersection, you're able to spot the wire and put your shoe right over it with the magnet."

Trigger

Bike magnet

Righteous! Thanks!

[TdubLady 1]

I asked CHP about this-my little bike and I have gotten stuck a couple of times at lights. I was told wait a reasonable rotation, then proceed with caution. And then he said if you're in a rural area and can see all is safe, just go. Also, I learned that as long as your wheels stop moving, it is NOT mandatory to put your feet on the ground to qualify as a "complete" stop. (I thought that was cool to know)

[Honda90 0]

I asked CHP about this-my little bike and I have gotten stuck a couple of times at lights. I was told wait a reasonable rotation, then proceed with caution. And then he said if you're in a rural area and can see all is safe, just go. Also, I learned that as long as your wheels stop moving, it is NOT mandatory to put your feet on the ground to qualify as a "complete" stop. (I thought that was cool to know)

But while you are waiting a "reasonable rotation" you have to sit there and worry about cars coming from behind. I hate that. Plus, if it didn't get you the first time, it's not going to pick you up the next cycle either. The light nearest my house works going east, but not west. Since I know this I try to time traffic so a car triggers it just before I get there. I have had to run it before.