X-country-Rider 0 Posted February 20, 2012 This ride is designed for any ADV bike capable of dirt road travel that's big enough to carry your camping gear. Think 1200GS's, 1150GS's, KTM 990's and 950's and Tiger 800 XC. That sort of thinng but if you can get your gear on and can ride dirt roads your probably good to go. You should probably have good tires that are designed to do both dirt and street. Tourances are probably a bit to street and not enough dirt. The route winds through the back country from Ramona to Idyllwild taking the long way with plenty of back dirt roads and with an over night camp out in the desert. You'll need to bring a dinner and breakfast to cook at the camp site. It starts in Ramona with a meetup Saturday morning in Ramona at Packard's Coffee shop. We will head out by getting on dirt from Ramona down Black Canyon Rd and then out Mesa Grande to Santa Ysabel and then up to Wynola From there its a right on Pine Hills Rd to Eagle Peak Rd to Boulder Creek and following the dirt twisties to Descanso. From there its out old hwy 80 to Pine Creek Rd up a single lane interesting paved rd to Mt Laguna. . From Mt. Laguna its a left on paved twisties to Julian. From Julian its down Banner Grade and out S-2 to camp in Butterfield Ranch Then its back out the S-2 to the 78 through Yaqui Pass to Grape Vine Canyon. We head up Grape Vine to Culp and then Jasper Truck Trail. This dirt section is a piece of cake for the enduro's but can be a little challenging for the big bikes do to the sandy sections. We take a left on Montezuma Valley Rd to the 79 and then to Palomar Divide Truck trail. From there its to Anza to refuel and head up Rouse Hill Rd (FR 5S15) along a dirt track all the way to the 74 near Hemet. From the 74 its up Bee Canyon and San Jacinto Ridge Truck Trail to Idyllwild. The DualSportmaps.com map of the ride. Sign up at SocalDualSport.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Afry 1 Posted February 20, 2012 How about leavings Packards, left on Magnolia to dirt on Black Canyon, turning right on Mesa Grande then right on 79 to Santa Ysabel. We did not ride this nice part of Mesa Grande last ride. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
X-country-Rider 0 Posted February 20, 2012 How about leavings Packards, left on Magnolia to dirt on Black Canyon, turning right on Mesa Grande then right on 79 to Santa Ysabel. We did not ride this nice part of Mesa Grande last ride. Good point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KLXBEN 0 Posted February 20, 2012 I am totally interested in this adventure. I live in Descanso so I would join in here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
X-country-Rider 0 Posted February 20, 2012 How about leavings Packards, left on Magnolia to dirt on Black Canyon, turning right on Mesa Grande then right on 79 to Santa Ysabel. We did not ride this nice part of Mesa Grande last ride. Good point. Route edited!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
X-country-Rider 0 Posted February 20, 2012 I am totally interested in this adventure. I live in Descanso so I would join in here. I live in Pine Valley maybe we could head down to Ramona together? There might be several folks from Pine Valley joining in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KLXBEN 0 Posted February 20, 2012 I am sure we can work something out. My brother in law Uncle Champ and my kid will prolly join in also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
X-country-Rider 0 Posted February 20, 2012 I am sure we can work something out. My brother in law Uncle Champ and my kid will prolly join in also. I'm two up riding with my boy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdarling 0 Posted February 21, 2012 How about leavings Packards, left on Magnolia to dirt on Black Canyon, turning right on Mesa Grande then right on 79 to Santa Ysabel. We did not ride this nice part of Mesa Grande last ride. Good point. Route edited!! Wait! If the Santa Ysabel TT is open, why don't we head up to Pamo Road and take SY TT over to Black Canyon. We can ride Mesa Grande out to the 79 from there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
X-country-Rider 0 Posted February 21, 2012 Wait! If the Santa Ysabel TT is open, why don't we head up to Pamo Road and take SY TT over to Black Canyon. We can ride Mesa Grande out to the 79 from there. Thats a real interesting option. Maybe we could get a guy on a larger bike to scout it before the ride if they open the gate? It would be a great start from Ramona but only if its 1200GS doable. We don't want to scare folks right out of the gate. Better to slowly turn up the heat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdarling 0 Posted February 21, 2012 It's definitely 1200GS-able, I've run that trail many times on the 1100 and it is no harder than the top end of Grapevine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
X-country-Rider 0 Posted February 21, 2012 It's definitely 1200GS-able, I've run that trail many times on the 1100 and it is no harder than the top end of Grapevine. Sweet!! We'll just have to keep watching to see if they'll open the gate. Is it USFS regulated? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Afry 1 Posted February 21, 2012 Yes it is forestry regulated. Unless we get a freak rainstorm you can bet it will be open. I will check it right before the event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nomilk4u 0 Posted February 21, 2012 Man, this looks like something i might be signing up for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
X-country-Rider 0 Posted February 21, 2012 Man, this looks like something i might be signing up for. You can sign up over here Sign up at SocalDualSport.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FuzzyNugs 0 Posted February 21, 2012 Count me in unless something work related prevents me. Sounds like another fun trip. Edit: Just remembered I'll be in TN for a concert that weekend, so I am now out. Bummer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crawdaddy 96 Posted February 21, 2012 It's definitely 1200GS-able, I've run that trail many times on the 1100 and it is no harder than the top end of Grapevine. Sweet!! We'll just have to keep watching to see if they'll open the gate. Is it USFS regulated? I'd be happy to run over there for you guys as the ride get's closer......it's a short ride from my house...... I think this short/FUN stretch is very worthwhile as Magnolia is pretty boring.......that said, I'd also say it's harder than anything you'll encounter on Grapevine and it can get a bit rutted at times......Definitely worthy of a check the week before you plan on heading out..... I would NOT send any new riders across Santa Isabel TT on big heavy pigs with full gas tanks......I agree with X-Country - let them get a few miles under their belts first.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eddie 0 Posted February 21, 2012 I'd check Bee Canyon beforehand as well. Was there a few times last year and found some VERY silty/powdery sections. Not fun on a small bike. Exponentially less fun on a 550 lb GS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
X-country-Rider 0 Posted February 22, 2012 I'd check Bee Canyon beforehand as well. Was there a few times last year and found some VERY silty/powdery sections. Not fun on a small bike. Exponentially less fun on a 550 lb GS. Maybe we can make it an option but worry that splitting up so early might not be a good idea unless we reform in Santa Ysabel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unhuskyman 0 Posted February 22, 2012 I guess im up for some suffering. In that case im in, will be riding the big bike.(vstrom 1000) so no whining about your bmw gs. Kapeesh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
X-country-Rider 0 Posted March 3, 2012 Man, this looks like something i might be signing up for. You can sign up over here Sign up at SocalDualSport.com Socaldualsport.com is our new sign up spot that way we are not cross posting in various forums. One spot to point users to sign up. Of course rides are free and our rides are not affiliated with a club. Although many of us are active on this forum and over at advrider. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shunka 0 Posted March 12, 2012 Ok everyone. 5 gallons of liquid goodness in the fermenter. Wife said she will probably drive my truck out, thus easing the whole transportation issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites