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Just got back from work party at Moms. Got alot done for her, but nothing done on the bike First of all; you guys (and gals) rock! I am feeling confident that I am headed down the path to success; just need to get back out and on it again. Second-torque wrench is going back! I am going back to the hand tighten by feel method, like mentioned. Stupid idea to go down this path. It has been fun determining the correct term for this item, and going to the site Bagstr provided it is called an axle screw! I will try to get back to it in the next couple of days. Thank you all for the input; I will keep you posted on the results!

If I remember correctly, the nut threads into the axle (I did not look real close since I didn't expect to have problems!). I have not found any good diagrams online yet to confirm this and am still looking. My first blush at this point is to try and get a small pipe wrench on this while I still have some surface like Tom said. Probably try and grind some flat spots to get a good platform like LB suggested first. If that does not work I imagine that I will be looking more along the lines of drilling or a reversing drill bit. The other side (right side looking down from the seat) also has a nut and it just spins. The shoulder is much thinner so I am being very careful turning it, but that seems odd to me as it was all connected to the axle. Maybe the axle is just captured by the nut on the other side and is floating inside of it. Again, if I could find a good exploded diagram I wouldn't have to be guessing 😡 While I would like to blame the torque wrench (I still may take it back and get a better quality one), it was my fault. When you guys field change a tube and have to do this, are you just using a wrench and tightening to feel? I'll be honest and say that I never really paid much attention to torque specs and have always tightened by feel without any issues. For some reason I felt the need to "do this right" this time.

It's a nut that threads in to the bottom of the fork and captures the axle. Once you loosen the 10 mm bolts you unthread that nut and then the axle slides out. All went well (and easy) until I went to put it back together and snugged the nut too hard and then slipped with the torque wrench. While embarrassing, here's a few pics of the damage in the current state. Heading up to Mom's for the work party soon and hoping to get back on this this afternoon.

Keep thinking about this and why it can be so tight. Bagster mentioned anti-sieze in another thread; maybe this is what happens without it? Just can't believe this is stuck as hard as it is. Will admit to a decent sized glass of Skrewball to try and help me think clearer. Gotta go up to Mom's for a work party in the morning and then hope to attack this again tomorrow afternoon. Thank you very much to all of you offering advice!

He is definitely missed; good for you for stopping by.

It went in clean, Udo; I just snugged it up way too tight. Even at that it amazes me how tight it is! I've got to walk away from it tonight and come back with a less agitated mind and while I still have options! Thank you very much for the offer but I've got to get this myself; stupid move on my part! Geht nicht, gibt's nicht indeed! And I will admit to having to look that up; I have not spoke German since I was a little kid with my grandparents and I am afraid I have lost what I had

Bummer to miss the ride Nice that it was an easy find and resolution though 👍

Went to Lowes and stood in the aisle reading reviews on what they had and walked out with the Kobalt one (never bought Kobalt before). They had Craftsman but the reviews were not as good so I passed. Truth is that I felt like I was over-tightening, but when it didn't click I just figured I wasn't there yet (I was looking for 25 fp). I actually took the wrench and tightened a lug nut on my Jeep just to hear it click! I'm starting to think I got a lemon torque wrench (I have not used one in many years; always just went by feel. For some reason thought I should do this right and went and bought one). How the heck do you tell if these things are calibrated right?

That is a great viddy, Mark; thank you! If I had not buggered up the bolt I probably would have messed up the fork alignment anyway! The manual does not say anything about that but I can see where this could cause problems. Maybe it is a blessing (what can I say-I'm an optimist!) that I did what I did.

Just got back in from BBQ'ing (with no icy cold Sam Adams!) and am going to watch the viddy next. If the flat ends and wrench don't work I might have to go this route. In the end, I don't care what gets it at this point! Never seen such a soft nut before or a simple project create this much hassle.

Made me laugh; needed that! And the sad thing is you have no idea how many times I have said that in the last day of messing with this.

Nut is jammed up and nothing is turning; well-everything that I put on it turns and strips it more 😡 I'm not saying that I understand this , but the right side nut just spins (right side looking from the seat). This seems so simple; am I just overthinking it? Should I tighten all the 10 mm bolts up first? Feeling pretty stupid about now.....

Yeah-rounded off good, LB! I do like the idea of grinding some flat spots and trying to get some grip. I have a medium sized pipe wrench that I tried to fit on like Tom suggested (well, he suggested a small one, which I don't have; will go get one tomorrow!) and that might work with the new flat surfaces. I do have all of the 10 mm bolts loose, Beta (there are 2 on each side). I actually grabbed my manual to check the proper way to do this (seems simple but I grabbed the manual anyway) so they are all loose. Are you thinking they should not be? I am open to all suggestions to get this %^$# thing off! Thank you, Mark. Mama says I need to go BBQ dinner now but I will be watching the viddy as soon as dinner is over. Just so you guys know I am serious, there will be no ice cold Sam Adams for me until I have this resolved! Thank you all for the help; never seen a nut this soft before and I buggered it up good!

Hmmmm; hadn't thought of that, Tom. Just went down to Lowes and bought another ViceGrip and it ain't working either; dang that nut is soft! Was gonna just sit here at the computer and feel sorry for myself; back out to the garage to grab the pipe wrench I go!

Thank you, Sir! I have not heard of aluminum anti-sieze and will now be looking into getting some. Such a stupid mistake, and I ordered 2 nuts in case I bonehead this again. Thank you again for the tip; much appreciated 🍺🍺

New front tire on the orange bike (Shinko 216) mounted (but stripped the axle nut with my torque wrench 😡) and looking forward to getting out (new nut on order). So jealous; have a great time!

I love it; wish I could be part of it!

Sounds like the season is here!!

Great story indeed! And while you reminisce of one more day around the campfire with your Dad, I wish for just one more conversation anywhere (he has been gone for 24 years now). Enjoy your Dad no matter where or what you are doing with him 🍺🍺

Welcome to the page, Dave!

I see them now; great job!!!

Well done; extra credit for the insertion of SpongeBob and Caddyshack clips 🍺🍺

And the pics aren't showing up (at least for me)

Senators Wash; that brings back memories.....

It will not happen again, Sir!