Bigtime1

I don't recall either side of the road having signs that stated "No Tresspassing", but there are signs on each side of the road in many locations that indicate the properties on each side of the road are private property and obviously that should be respected. While there is not a standard issue steel street sign, there aren't many in the area anyway - mostly white wood signs that have been accepted by the local agencies as street signs. Anyone whose ridden around in the avocado orchards has seen them. This is a through road, it connects to Tenaja. The signs state "No Thru Traffic", which could be perceived as "don't go here". While not looking to antagonize any property owners, I'd sure like to know if I'm legal while on this road. Might be worth a stop in the SDSO office in Fallbrook to find out.

This work? 33°27'10.38"N 117°19'37.91"W

Yesterday I was out exploring north of DeLuz and at the entrance to Tenaja Truck Trail where it meets DeLuz Road there were fresh signs stating "Private Road" and "No Thru Traffic". Not wanting a confrontation I instead continued up DeLuz Road then connected over Carancho/Avocado Mesa to get to into Tenaja and on up Cleveland Forest Road to the hornets nest known as Wildomar OHV area. I rode back down S. Main Divide through Calle De Campanero to Tenaja etc. and the north end of the Truck Trail and the Margarita TT junction there were no such signs. Under the cloak of plausible deniability I proceeded south on Tenaja TT and popped out on DeLuz Road without incident. The point of this is what's with the signs? According to the maps I have (AAA, USFS and Google) Tenaja TT is a public road. Are the residents trying to cut down on traffic on "their" road by posting these signs? Anyone else had any problems?

Sure looks like an '82 or '83 CR80.

Thanks. Must be a heck of a view from up there.

What is that tower-looking thing on top of the ridge that you can see by looking pretty much due east from Tenaja Truck Trail at the shady junction with Teneja Road? Or from just about anywhere out Santa Margarita looking east? It looks like a tower, or maybe a wandering Easter Island head?

Ya, that's kind of what I expected considering the political climate in the Bay Area. No fun allowed unless its done in an all-inclusive, environmentally friendly, socially aware, politically correct, gender-neutral manner. Thanks for the leads!

Anyone have any leads on dual sport ride potential near San Francisco? I usually avoid that city as much as possible but its a work thing and we're hoping to put together a DS ride right out of the city and into some trails or roads, display the versatility of a DS bike.

I ran into this group while out on a shakedown cruise on my DRZ I just finished getting sorted out. Saw y'all at the Teneja/8S01 junction, thanks for the map tips. Rode out to MP5 then looked at my clock and figured out I needed to get headed home. There's always next time to get to the top. I thought it was some sort of KLR owners group judging by the bikes!

Ok, yes, total new guy here. But I happen to be deeply involved in MC safety and land use and have to jump in this discussion. Loud pipes are going to do more to destroy recreational opportunities than just about any other aspect of the sport. Basically if you are running anything other than the stock pipe or something less than 96dB your pipe is not legit for public lands. I didn't participate in the DD but I know some of the AB route and it will all be off limits to future MC use, DS or not, if squidly behavior persists. How do government agencies deal with hassles? They ban them. They just don't have the resources or the patience to put up with a bunch of crap from a small number of land users. If you think about most Ranger-types you've met how many got into their job because they love OHV recreation vs. the number who are granola/Sierra Club/lock-it-up conservationists?? (Nothing against granola, love it personally). You can rattle your sabres about lawsuits and paid for public lands and what it says on the map, but when was the last time you saw an area opened back up after a problematic shutdown? Hmm...? I've been through the bad old days of Cranston & Feinstein and S7, S11, S21. I've seen huge tracts of land get fenced off from legitimate OHV recreation. Dual sporting is a great way to enjoy areas you otherwise will only see in the seat of an Embrair on approach to Palomar Airport. So please, make your bike as quiet as you can. Truth be told, only about 1% of the riders out there can use all of the power their bike puts out (TW200 riders exempted from that remark). Realistically, how many times do you have the throttle at the stop, pinned and begging for more power (that 3 or 4 horsepower) that an aftermarket pipe will give? Put that $350 into suspension, a damper, some new tires - all will benefit you more than a loud pipe. My bike? Stock pipe all the way. When I whisper up the dirt roads off DeLuz the people in their front yards don't even look up. Just the way I like it. Something to consider for the next DD. Simply put on the flyer/entry form that there will be a sound check and that 96Db will be strictly enforced. That will weed out most of the potential problems right there. Actually running a sound check will take care of the rest. Most dual sport types I've met are extremely reasonable and will understand the need to tread lightly.