KTMrad 508 Posted November 10, 2011 This is from the "Wetleather" site and e-mail list, I joined them a few years back when I did a road trip to Washington. Met a lot of good people from the list in Seattle, and made some friends...I found their Camping Article and Equipment List, possibly one of the most comprehensive lists I've seen..... Just choose what you need from this list, of course you don't need all this stuff, but it's a great guide so you don't forget anything....I don't think they missed much........ LINK HERE Camping Guide - Bill Johns' Excellent Motorcycle Camping Guide Thu, 2006-10-05 19:36 — carlp This document was begun to prepare camping newbies for the first annual Greater Pacific Northwest Dryside Gather. I've been updating ever since. Many folks have offered valuable input, including, but not limited to JonM, !dk, Jeff Earls, Vic Swan, Guy Pace, Dave Svoboda. Possibly more, I've forgotten. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's the list.... 231 + 1 ITEM BIGGEST BIKE-CAMPING LIST EVER The Categories of Items CAMPING/SLEEPING EQUIPMENT COOKING/EATING EQUIPMENT CLOTHING PERSONAL EFFECTS BIKE PARAPHERNALIA TOOLS CAMPING/SLEEPING EQUIPMENT ___ air mattress ___ bivouac bag/sack ___ candle lantern ___ candle lantern candles (spares) ___ compass ___ ear plugs ___ feces shovel ___ flashlight ___ flashlights (magnilites (2)) ___ flashlight batteries (spares) ___ ground tarps (1 per 2 days - split and trash 1/2 each day) ___ knife (Buck) ___ knife sharpener ___ nylon cord ___ pillow (travel) ___ poncho liner & stuff sack ___ sleeping bag ___ sleeping bag waterproof-bag ___ sleeping hood (hat) ___ sleeping pad (insulated) ___ sleeping pad chair/sling ___ sven saw ___ tent ___ tent rain fly ___ tent waterproof-bag ___ waterproofing spray and seamlock COOKING/EATING EQUIPMENT ___ bags (plastic large garbage) ___ bags (plastic small trash, 1 for every 4-5 days) ___ can opener ___ cup & spoon ___ cup/beer stein ___ dish towel ___ food ___ coffee bags ___ coffee creamer ___ coffee mug (insulated) ___ coffee sugar ___ energy bars/raisins ___ soy (2-3 small boxes) ___ fork ___ jack knife ___ knife ___ match case ___ matches (farmers) ___ matches (in sealed plastic bag/bottle) ___ matches (waterproof) ___ napkins ___ paper towels ___ pepper ___ plate ___ pot gripper ___ pots ___ salt ___ soap/scrubber pads ___ spoon(s) ___ stove ___ stove gas (white gas) ___ stove wind screen ___ water bottle(s) (2) ___ water carrier (1 gallon) CLOTHING ___ Riding Gear ___ boot sock liners ___ boots (canvas mukluks or rubber type) ___ chaps ___ gators ___ gauntlets ___ gloves (cold weather) ___ gloves (electric & wire harness) ___ gloves (hot weather) ___ gloves (rubber) ___ gloves (wool liners and dish washing rain gloves) ___ hat (wool) ___ helmet ___ jacket ___ jacket (polypro ski) ___ jacket (wind breaker) ___ jacket liner & stuff sack ___ neck warmer/long scarf ___ pants (leather) ___ pants for riding (Levis) ___ rain gear (boots, vest, etc.) ___ rain totes & stuff sack ___ rain suit ___ sailor hat for riding without a helmet on hot days ___ shirts (long-sleeve, turtle-neck T-shirts) ___ ski goggles for riding without a helmet ___ ski warm-ups ___ socks (cotton) ___ socks (neoprene) ___ socks (wool) ___ spandex shorts ___ sunglasses ___ sunglasses (spare) ___ underwear (insulated, long johns) ___ Camp Clothes ___ camp shoes/slippers ___ changes of clothes (3-5, rolled up) ___ down vest ___ jeans ___ jeans jacket ___ laundry soap ___ layers of clothing (like cross country skiing) ___ moosehead hat ___ pants ___ shorts ___ socks ___ sweat shirt ___ sweater ___ swimming suit ___ T-shirts ___ underwear ___ warm clothes for evenings/nights ___ washing shorts ___ wind breaker PERSONAL EFFECTS ___ backpack (small) ___ book (paperback) ___ camera & film ___ campground guides ___ cellular phone ___ chapstick ___ cigarettes ___ contact lens stuff ___ DoD lighter & fluid ___ ear plugs ___ electric razor ___ fanny pack ___ first aid kit ___ fishing gear ___ grease pencil ___ hand cream ___ hand soap ___ hand/nail brush ___ hi-liter ___ insect repellent/bug spray ___ knife ___ maps & magnifier ___ prescription medicines ___ membership cards (AMA, VRC, RPAA, Parks, campgrounds, etc.) ___ negotiables ___ cash ($25-$30/day/person) ___ checkbook ___ credit cards (gas) ___ credit cards (MC/Visa/AmEx/Discover/etc.) ___ travellers checks ___ pen ___ pencil ___ post-it's ___ radios/tape players with mini speakers ___ radios/tape players batteries (extras) ___ reading glasses (if you are over 40) ___ sewing kit ___ shampoo ___ skin moisturizers ___ sun glasses ___ sun screen/block/lotion ___ tapes ___ toilet kit ___ toilet paper in sealed plastic bag ___ toiletries ___ tooth brush & paste ___ toothbrush ___ towel ___ visine ___ wash cloth ___ watch ___ weapon (optional) ___ weather radio BIKE PARAPHERNALIA ___ anti-fogger (detergent) ___ bags (large ziplock garbage) ___ bike rain cover ___ bug rag ___ bungee cargo net ___ bungee cords ___ chain lock ___ chain lock key (extra) ___ chain lub ___ chain masterlink ___ chamois (to clean windshield) ___ cloth rags ___ communicators (bike-to-bike radios) ___ duct tape ___ emergency equipment ___ fork protectors ___ fuel bottle (backpacking type, 2-quart filled with extra gasoline) ___ glue (gorilla snot) ___ glue (super) ___ helmet face shield/visors (clear, tinted, & extras) ___ ignition key (extra) ___ insurance certificate (for Canadian travel) ___ insurance papers & info ___ lamp, headlight (spare No. ______) ___ lamp, instrument panel (spare No. ______) ___ lamp, taillight (spare No. ______) ___ lamp, turn signals (spare No. ______) ___ maps ___ padlocks & cables ___ radar detector & extra batteries ___ rain-x ___ saddlebag key (extra) ___ seatcover (sheep skin) ___ seat rain cover ___ shoe laces (leather -- loop at one end for strapping) ___ sidestand plates ___ stuff sacks (weather-proof) ___ tank bag ___ tarp (small reinforced or rain parka) (for gear during storms) ___ vehicle registration ___ windshield polish TOOLS ___ duct tape (flatten the spool) ___ electrical system schematic ___ electrical tape ___ emergency blanket (Space Blanket) ___ emergency warning light (trouble light) ___ fuses (extra) ___ Leatherman Tool ___ multimeter ___ pliers (channel locks, aka water-pump pliers) ___ pliers (needle nose) ___ pliers (standard) ___ screwdrivers (assorted or set) ___ socket set ___ suspension adjustment tool ___ tire inflator ___ tire patch/plug kit ___ tire pressure gauge ___ tire pump (small hand/foot) ___ vise grips ___ wire & alligator clip ___ wrenches (combination) ___ wrenches (crescent 4" and 10"; good ones) ___ wrenches (metric Allen) ___ wrench (spark plug) ___ gas-fired soldering iron -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tent Advice Addendum Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:59:02 -0800 From: Paul English To: Northwest Bikers Social Mailing List Subject: Motorcycle Camping Tent advice Roundup I found the tent advice very useful, and thought I'd summarize for everyone. I was looking for a tent for 2 adults and a child from REI to use my girlfriend's REI membership dividend. When we found out we could just get a check for it, that's what we did so now we have time get the tent. :-) Based on the advice we got, we will most likely go for the Eureka Timberline 4 person, see if it works for all 3 of us plus gear in the vestibule and if it doesn't, get the little person her own tent. Campmor has these with the regular (2 door) for $159 and the Outfitter version for $269. General advice: Buy a self-supporting tent so that it can be moved in a pinch of you find you picked a bad spot. Get one that fits on your bike. Get one with short pole segments so they can be packed in saddlebags (or just plan on packing the poles separately) Get two doors, failing that, two windows. Get a vestibule for gear Don't worry about weight too much - you won't be carrying it on your back Specific Recommendations: Eureka Timberline tents (3 votes for this one) - easy up, overhang on doors, vestibule available, "heavy duty" Outfitter version available, 2 & 4 person available Sierra Designs alpha - easy up, pockets, attic available REI 4 person Eureka Apex2 (good for 1 person plus gear) REI Half Dome Plus2 - cheap, solid, enough room for 2 plus gear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulmbowers 236 Posted November 10, 2011 Forgot a partridge and pear tree. Yikes. Sven saw?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eddie 0 Posted November 10, 2011 All of that goes in the chase truck, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTMrad 508 Posted November 10, 2011 All of that goes in the chase truck, right? What's a chase truck ? If you carry all the stuff on that list, you won't need no stinkin' chase truck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Diego 40 Posted November 10, 2011 You forgot the kitchen sink? Forgot a partridge and pear tree. Yikes. Sven saw?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bikeslut 1 Posted November 10, 2011 Forgot a partridge and pear tree. Yikes. Sven saw?? when bowers thinks it is too much... it's WAY too much give me a wr250r and a credit card Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulmbowers 236 Posted November 11, 2011 Yeah- based on recent events, I'm thinking of buying one of these- it will carry that stuff AND my broken bike. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobiee 28 Posted November 11, 2011 Shoot ! Roger carries all that and more in his flight vest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerTOWM 0 Posted November 11, 2011 I read the link and while he appears to be oriented toward touring bikes (which can carry the kitchen sink) some of these things also apply to dual sport touring. The list is just a check list of possible items, not that you need to carry everything on the list (although Roger does carry the whole list in his flight vest). I have done some touring bike camping and a couple of dual sport (adventure) camping trips. He makes some good points. If you are going through towns to get fuel they will probably have a store where you can buy food as well. You don’t need to carry 15 days worth of food on you little girl 250 yamaha just because you are going on a 15 day ride. You can get by with just a couple of days worth and buy more in town when you fill up. I carry a freeze dried meal or MRE as an emergency ration and just buy my days worth of food each day. Pick food that will travel well. On a trip in Utah I once put a nice green banana in my front plate bag. It fit there well, didn’t take up much space and the potassium recharge would be good at lunch. Well the bag was nice and dark inside and the day got hot. When I dug out the banana and lunch I found my hard green banana had turned to soft black goo. Needless to say this is not the way to carry a banana. Tuna can now be found in packets instead of cans. These are easier to pack, don’t have hard edges to dig into you when you fall and are easy to pack out as trash. I take a package of tuna, a packet of mayonnaise and pita bread. Just open the tuna, drain the water, squeeze in the mayo, mix with a spoon, cut the pita bread in half, open it up, spoon in the tuna and I have a nice sandwich. Simple to carry, light and hardly any trash to pack back out. I can carry this in my flight vest and not even notice it. When I dump it (which I do a lot) the food helps pad my body and is not harmed by the fall. The important think about food is to keep it simple, light and use your head. Do you need a steak for dinner or can you get by with mac and cheese? I like oatmeal so I just heat up water in the morning for instant coffee and instant oatmeal. There is my breakfast. There are lots of different meals you can have if you use your imagination. You don’t have to go to the camping stores just walk down the grocery store aisles and think. Tents keep the bugs from biting you and give you some privacy for dressing and washing. Backpacking tents are light and pack small. Always get a tent rated for one more person then you plan on sleeping in it. If you are by yourself get a two person tent, with a close friend get a three person tent. Taking a close friend and Simon with you? Maybe a four person tent is best. These tents are small and don’t give you much room for stuff inside. Some one person tents I have seen will not even fit me inside. Waterproof tents will soak you with condensation by the morning. A tent with vents and a rain fly is much better. A tent with a large vestibule in the rain fly will let you keep your riding gear out of the weather. Always use a tarp or footprint under the tent. This will prevent you from putting holes in the bathtub floor of the tent. Tent “foot prints” are pricey. They are shaped to the bottom of the tent but just a might smaller. You can make one much cheaper by buying a small poly-tarp and then cutting it to size. You want it slightly smaller than the tent floor, if it sticks out past the tent bottom water could run off of the tent and puddle under the tent floor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites